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Elementor Pro - To Clients

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Hey,

I'm new to these forums and I just recently purchased Elementor Pro. My question comes down to this. Since we cannot resell Elementor Pro and since we are not allowed to sell a theme with elementor pro features on for example themeforest. How do you developers sell your site or move them over to your clients site?

Do you enable Pro on your clients site? Do you use some sort of migrate plugin and if so which one?

Basically I want to know how you give a theme to a client or sell a theme.

Thanks
 
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As a rule you as a developer, designer or consultant should purchase the unlimited site licence which then allows you to use your licence on as many domains as you wish. So if you build a website for a client, your licence enables their website to keep getting updates.

You should also encourage maintenance plans with your clients so its viable to keep your licence renewed year on year.

You can not resell Pro as a product, but you are well within your rights to sell a service which includes the usage of your licence on a client website.
 
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As a rule you as a developer, designer or consultant should purchase the unlimited site licence which then allows you to use your licence on as many domains as you wish. So if you build a website for a client, your licence enables their website to keep getting updates.

You should also encourage maintenance plans with your clients so its viable to keep your licence renewed year on year.

You can not resell Pro as a product, but you are well within your rights to sell a service which includes the usage of your licence on a client website.
Thanks for your message.

I do have the Unlimited plan. So if I make a theme for a client, when I want to install it on the clients site I can include the pro plugin and have the license set as active? Right now I've been adding it and disconnecting my pro from my license so it's inactive. I thought I couldn't "resell" the use of my license on a clients site.

A second question then if you may, I see people selling themes made with Elementor on for example themeforest. Those developers have their own sites where they showcase multiple designs that they've made with Elementor. How do they showcase these? Are they using multisite? Or is there another way? Right now I'm using multisite but since I don't have the paid plugin (All in one migrate) I cannot migrate my themes. Any suggestion would be appreciated.
 
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Thats correct, you may keep your licence active on your clients sites providing you've provided a service, you obviously have to work out something that ensures best practice is being held for both you and your clients. Obviously keeping your licence renewed year on year is in your clients best interests, hence the recommendation of a maintenance plan with client websites which helps you keep that licence active.

I would imagine many of them are using custom theme switchers, something like this :

https://lovethemes.co/free-theme-demo-switcher/

But I've not personally looked at the elementor themes in particular at theme forest so can't be 100% certain that's what they are using.
 
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Thats correct, you may keep your licence active on your clients sites providing you've provided a service, you obviously have to work out something that ensures best practice is being held for both you and your clients. Obviously keeping your licence renewed year on year is in your clients best interests, hence the recommendation of a maintenance plan with client websites which helps you keep that licence active.

I would imagine many of them are using custom theme switchers, something like this :



But I've not personally looked at the elementor themes in particular at theme forest so can't be 100% certain that's what they are using.
Thanks for your help, that demo-switcher wouldn't work. In their guide they say that the themes have to be in the for example /demo folder and then you move a theme there from the wp-content folder. The theme wont be able to render like that. I really need to talk to someone that uses Elementor and has some sort of demo-switcher etc to see how it works.
 
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I will try and look into it tomorrow, but if you gather any more info in the meantime please come back and post a solution :)
 
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Confirmation From Elementors Ben Pines on the usage of the licences :

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Yea, I read that.

I stil havent found a good solution for the showcasing themes / demos with Elementor since it really doesen't affect a theme per say, no code goes into the theme files for the layout. So I'm still confused.
 
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Hi all,

I have read FAQs and other info on site and it's not really clear whether we are allowed to sell themes created with Elementor Pro.

Could you please clarify: can I create a theme with Elementor Pro and sell it? Also, should my customers buy a new license of Elementor every time, or I can include Elementor Pro within my theme (I have the Expert pack with 1,000 licenses).

Thanks
 
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Thats correct, you may keep your licence active on your clients sites providing you've provided a service, you obviously have to work out something that ensures best practice is being held for both you and your clients. Obviously keeping your licence renewed year on year is in your clients best interests, hence the recommendation of a maintenance plan with client websites which helps you keep that licence active.
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I don't know many clients that would appreciate being handcuffed to one designer for good. I love Elementor, but there would have to be a better way to embed a license for a client before I would feel okay with this. I'm about to take on a website project that a previous designer started and then abandoned. If he had used Elementor this way, the client would be in a real fix.

And does this mean if a web designer builds a ton of sites with Elementor (unlimited license),but then goes out of business a few years later, all the customer sites will break?! Am I missing something?
 
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I think your missing something. How would a licence key lock a customer in to anything ?

Licences are attachable and detatchable, if a client wants to use thier own licence key instead of a developer/service provider they can swap it out. Like wise if a developer/provider were to go missing or not renew their licence, it would simply mean that elementor pro would no longer be updated with latest releases. Nothing would stop working unless the PRO version was so outdated it was no longer compatible with any of the plugins installed.

Simple fix is the new developer, or the client replaces their licence key with their own.
 
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I think your missing something. How would a licence key lock a customer in to anything ?

Licences are attachable and detatchable, if a client wants to use thier own licence key instead of a developer/service provider they can swap it out. Like wise if a developer/provider were to go missing or not renew their licence, it would simply mean that elementor pro would no longer be updated with latest releases. Nothing would stop working unless the PRO version was so outdated it was no longer compatible with any of the plugins installed.

Simple fix is the new developer, or the client replaces their licence key with their own.
Hi! I am new with webdesign. What if the client does not want any maintenance plan? I bought elementor pro for multiple sites. If I renew my licence, will the client still benefit from the updates? If he does not want any maintenance plan should I remove my licence cause I dont want him to benefit from my updates. Thanks for your help!
 
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That's not a licence question, It's just what ever you prefer to do as apart of your service.

Personally I leave all clients websites on my licence, as i consider a client a long term investment who comes back to me if/when there is a problem, regardless of whether they've taken a maintenance plan.

If there comes a time when Ive used the 1000 website allocation, then those 1000 websites would have more than paid for the viablity of purchasing a second pro licence. It's all relative.

I personally think your statement about you not wanting a client to benefit from your licence updates after you've sold them a website is morally corrupt and tells me you won't last long in the business. That's what sets apart a good service provider who looks after their clients, and a bad one who's clients eventually find someone better.

If someone is paying you £xxxx for a website, you have a duty of care to some degree, and if one of those upgrades breaks the websites functionality, if you've been a good service provider then they will be back to you to fix it, which you then charge for your time with.

Stop thinking so narrow and look at the bigger picture if you want to last longer than a few years as a service provider.
 
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WOw! What a harsh response for someone who does not know the whole context! FYI: I redesigned this particular website for free to start building my portfolio as I am pretty new. What bothers me is that the person is no more reasonable and wants more and more functionalities for free as well! she wants me to add some e-commerce functionalities for free. The website I built would normally cost 2.300€ and the maintenance part (which she needs by the way) would cost 50€ per months. With the e-commerce part, she would have paid 4500€. I just feel a bit trapped: even though I need a portfolio, I don't think that I should do everything she is asking for free. At the same time this website may be a good reference for me to get new clients... I just want to ask her to pay for her own elementor pro licence ($59 a year) because she is no more reasonable.
 
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Apologies it wasn't meant to sound to harsh, was just based on your statement that and unfortunatly we see it only to often.

Obviously there is going to be situations where normal logic doesnt apply. That said i would highly recommend taking a look at some of WP-Elevations material. It's massively important to make sure your proposals and work order contracts clearly outline whats included to prevent situations like you are currently in with "scoop creep" clients.

Unfortunatly doing people "favours" and offering stuff free nearly 100% of the time ends up being bad for business ( or your health :D )

In your current situation, I would simply detatch your licence from future updates and kindly instruct the client that should they want/need future updates there is licence costs.

I feel for you, as its hard when clients try and take advantage and we've all been there. But sometimes it is just matter of learning to say "no". And telling them their "free" service is complete and additional work needs to be quoted for.
 
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Thanks a lot! I should have provided more details as well, sorry.
Thanks for the advice!
 
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